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Bank Holiday Lockdown Quiz Question
#1
Can anyone identify the Warwickshire player who, on his debut, bowled 11 consecutive legitimate deliveries? 
And how did it happen?
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#2
Was it Gladstone Small; I seem to recall an 18 ball over early in his career? One of my favourite Bears of all time!
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#3
A good try; but the key word in the question is "legitimate" - no-balls don't count.
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#4
Were the 11 consecutive deliveries in the same over?
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(10-04-2020, 01:35 PM)Exiled Bear Wrote: Were the 11 consecutive deliveries in the same over?
Yes they were!
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#6
Was it a case that the batsman kept pulling out as the ball was being bowled due to something like a swarm of bees or flies?
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(10-04-2020, 11:57 PM)Leicester Exile Wrote: Was it a case that the batsman kept pulling out as the ball was being bowled due to something like a swarm of bees or flies?
I would really like that to be true because it's much more interesting than what actually happened.
Maybe time for a clue:
He played just after World War II and bowled leg breaks - but he wasn't Eric Hollies.
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#8
We're gonna need a better clue...

Referring to Jack Bannister's History of Warwickshire CCC gives me four names that fit your description but I can't find any reference to the incident you describe. I have:

Derrick Flint
Jack Marshall
Michael Mills
Godfrey Pell

Are we getting warmer?
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(11-04-2020, 10:44 AM)GrizzlyBear Wrote: We're gonna need a better clue...

Referring to Jack Bannister's History of Warwickshire CCC gives me four names that fit your description but I can't find any reference to the incident you describe. I have:

Derrick Flint
Jack Marshall
Michael Mills
Godfrey Pell

Are we getting warmer?

Yes definitely warm.
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#10
I've been trying to think of ways for someone to bowl that many legitimate deliveries in a row. I guess it partly depends on the definition of "legitimate". In the current laws, if there is a case of illegal fielding or a player returning to the field without permission then that ball doesn't count as one of the over, but runs are still counted, so not sure if that counts as legitimate? Even then, I'm not sure how you'd have 5 occurrences of that in the same over, and I'm also not sure what the laws were like in those days!
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#11
"Legitimate" in the sense of not being called as either a wide, a no-ball or a dead ball.
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#12
Just to give a further clue - the player concerned died in 2000; and the incident is mentioned in the 2001 Warwickshire year book.
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(11-04-2020, 01:09 PM)Terry Wrote: "Legitimate" in the sense of not being called as either a wide, a no-ball or a dead ball.

I haven't got a clue about the answer, but cant work out how its possible to have an 11 ball over without a wide, a no ball or dead ball. Must be something obvious that brain cells cant get around.

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#14
There was an incident New Zealand v England where after 5 balls the umpire lost count and decided to start the over again making 11 balls bowled - so I found by Google. I can only assume something similar happened at Warks
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(12-04-2020, 07:10 PM)Leicester Exile Wrote: There was an incident New Zealand v England where after 5 balls the umpire lost count and decided to start the over again making 11 balls bowled - so I found by Google. I can only assume something similar happened at Warks

Could they not have just checked with the scorers how many balls had been bowled?!
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(12-04-2020, 07:20 PM)Exiled Bear Wrote:
(12-04-2020, 07:10 PM)Leicester Exile Wrote: There was an incident New Zealand v England where after 5 balls the umpire lost count and decided to start the over again making 11 balls bowled - so I found by Google. I can only assume something similar happened at Warks

Could they not have just checked with the scorers how many balls had been bowled?!

You would have thought - or the square leg umpire saying something but it could be back in the day no-one ever questioned the umpire.
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#17
Leicester Exile has got one part of the answer - how eleven legitimate balls got bowled in the same over.
For who it was, when and where, you just need to fill in the missing names in the report from The Birmingham Gazette:
"On his first appearance in county cricket (name of bowler) sent down 11 successive deliveries for Warwickshire against (name of county) at (venue). before the umpire called 'over'.  With the sixth ball (name of bowler) got (name of batsman) leg before, but apparently the umpire lost count and did not realise his error until the 11th delivery had been bowled."
I agree that the square leg umpire or the scorer could have intervened but they either didn't or were ignored.
One clue - the umpire in question was Alec Skelding,
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#18
It's Jack Marshall against Worcestershire at Dudley. He got a five-fer in the first innings including two lbs. I'm guessing the relevant one was Dews.
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#19
Jack Marshall at Dudley against Worcestershire in 1946 it is!
Actually, the batsman was Dick Howarth.
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#20
I would loved to have sat next to the scorer suddenly finding himself having to find the place in the scorebook to put the extra dots/runs !
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